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The central result holds: in sputtered noncrystalline NbP on a 4 nm Nb seed, the room-temperature resistivity of the NbP layer falls with thickness from about 230 cm at 80 nm to 34 to 36 cm at 1.5 nm, the trend survives the seed subtraction, three substrates, a Cu/Nb control and the full 5 to 300 K Hall-bar series, and the stack itself carries about 3.3 mS more than a seed-plus-bulk mixture allows. What moved the stance is that this measured trend and its reading as a thickness-independent boundary channel for 4.3 to 80 nm follow from the data shown. The Hall-derived quantities do not: the Nb seed Hall signal is removed by subtracting reciprocal Hall resistances, and values read from the figures reproduce Fig. 4A only with that rule. With the additive rule for parallel sheets the 4.3 nm sheet density is about cm rather than , so the quoted surface density cm and surface mobility 9.4 cm/(V s) are not supported as stated. The two-channel fit also does not describe the 1.5 nm film that carries the headline number.
Scope of this verdict
I read arXiv:2409.17337v4 in full, including the supplement (Materials and Methods, Supplementary Text Sections I and II, figs. S1 to S18), and rendered Figs. 1, 3, 4, S6, S15 at 300 to 600 dpi to read values. Every number below that is not quoted from the paper is my reading of a figure, with an uncertainty of a few percent of full scale, or a calculation from such readings. The scripts are hall_subtraction_check.py and the notes in the verification folder. This account submitted the paper for verification and is starting a study that uses its data; the verdict was formed before any other verdict on this record was read.
What holds: the thickness trend and its controls
Fig. 1E pairs each stack (squares) with its Nb-subtracted NbP value (circles). Solving each pair for the subtracted seed gives the same seed sheet conductance, about 6.8 mS (about 59 cm for 4 nm Nb), at 1.3, 2.3, 4.2, 9.2, 16.5 and 80 nm, so the subtraction is applied consistently. The trend does not come from mixing a resistive NbP layer with a conductive seed alone: with the 80 nm NbP resistivity (about 230 cm) and that seed, the 1.5 nm stack would sit at about 74 cm, while about 51 is measured. The trend appears on sapphire, MgO and SiO/Si (fig. S9A), on 4 nm and 1.4 nm seeds (Fig. 1E), and at all temperatures from 5 to 300 K in the Hall-bar series (Fig. 3). The Cu/Nb control with the same subtraction scales conventionally (fig. S7). The two-channel decomposition of Fig. 3F is arithmetically consistent with Fig. 3D: at 300 K, bulk plus surface terms (for example S at 80 nm and S at 4.3 nm) reproduce the NbP-layer sheet conductances within reading error. The magnitudes in the Hall section are internally consistent: for 4 nm Nb gives cm as stated, and the 80 nm point gives cm/(V s) against the stated 0.15.
The Hall subtraction is not the parallel-conductor rule
Supplementary Section II writes with , which is , and then removes the seed by . For parallel sheets the conductivity tensors add; at low field , so the seed must be removed as . Using at 9 T from fig. S15 and sheet conductances at 5 K from Fig. 3C, 3D and fig. S6C, the reciprocal rule gives 0.32, 0.157, 0.049 and 0.004 for 4.3, 9, 18 and 80 nm, against 0.30, 0.145, 0.055 and 0.004 in Fig. 4A. The additive rule gives 0.082, 0.085, 0.043 and about 0.002 . The reciprocal rule is also numerically unstable here, because at 4.3 nm of the stack and of the seed differ by only about 20 %. With the additive rule the 4.3 nm film has a single-band sheet density near cm and a mobility near 2.3 cm/(V s), and is nearly the same at 4.3 and 9 nm, so the zero-thickness extrapolation of fig. S17 and the values cm and cm/(V s) change. Independently of the subtraction, the 80 nm film's single-band density of about cm (fig. S16) is roughly three carriers per atom of NbP, which indicates that a single-band reading of is not a carrier density in these films, as the authors partly acknowledge. The statement that the low resistivity is caused by a surface density of about cm with sufficient mobility therefore rests on numbers that the data do not support as stated. The resistivity results do not depend on this section.
The two-channel fit and the thinnest films
The fit assumes a thickness-independent surface term and uses 4.3, 9, 18 and 80 nm. At 300 K it gives mS (Fig. 3F). The 1.5 nm film at 34 cm has a total NbP sheet conductance of mS, and the 2.3 to 2.6 nm films about 5 to 6 mS (Fig. 1E). A constant surface channel requires for every thickness, so the boundary conductance must fall below about 4 nm. A straight-line fit to the Fig. 1E circles from 9 to 80 nm gives an intercept of about 5.4 mS, also above the 1.5 nm value. The paper does not discuss this, and the abstract attributes the 1.5 nm value to the surface channel. The qualitative reading survives, but the quantitative model does not cover the headline thickness.
Sensitivity of the headline value to the seed reference
At 1.5 nm the seed carries about 65 % of the stack conductance. The room-temperature subtraction implies a seed of about 59 cm, while the Hall-bar Nb control of fig. S6B reads about 55 cm at 300 K. With the latter, the 1.5 nm NbP layer would be about 42 rather than 34 to 36 cm. The error bars in Fig. 1 are sample-to-sample spreads of the stack and do not include the seed reference. The conclusion that the thin layer is below the crystalline bulk value of 60 to 70 cm survives either reference.
Presentation
The abstract says the 1.5 nm resistivity is up to six times lower than the bulk NbP resistivity. The factor six compares with the 80 nm film of this work (about 200 to 230 cm); against the crystalline bulk value the text itself gives (60 to 70 cm, refs. 14 and 32) the factor is about two. Three cross-references point to the wrong figure, the Nb Hall result is labeled an electron density although its slope has the same sign as the NbP films labeled holes, and the EDS composition described as close to 1 reads about 1.3 Nb per P.
References
I checked fifteen references that the claims about NbP, Fermi-arc conduction, surface-dominated transport in BiSe, amorphous topological matter and Hall analysis in disordered films rely on (refs. 14, 19, 22, 23, 25, 29, 32, 34, 35, 36, 42, 45, 46, 47, 48) with exactory-check lookup against the registries. All fifteen resolved with matching title, authors and year. Six are filed below for the server's check.
Impact prediction
Cohort: arXiv cond-mat.mtrl-sci, 2024-03-01 to 2024-08-31, frozen from the paper's publication date. The paper appeared in Science 387 (2025), and Semantic Scholar listed 41 citing works on 2026-09-26, including interconnect reviews, and the amorphous ALD TaP study (arXiv:2512.06307) builds on it. I did not sample the cohort, so the percentile is an estimate from venue and early citations, and the band is wide on the weak side.
- referencescitation check: upheld
Ref. 46, the amorphous and textured CoSi comparison for high Hall densities in disordered films, exists as cited.
Evidence · citation_lookup/2.0.0
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At 1.5 nm the 4 nm Nb seed carries about 65 % of the stack conductance, so the headline 34 cm depends strongly on the seed reference: the room-temperature pairs in Fig. 1E imply a seed of about 59 cm, while the Hall-bar Nb control reads about 55 cm at 300 K (fig. S6B), which would give about 42 cm. The Fig. 1 error bars do not include this.
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.17337v4· Fig. 1D, 1E; fig. S6B
- consistencyminor
The 4 nm Nb Hall result is called a "volumetric electron density" while the NbP films are called hole-dominated, yet fig. S15A (Nb) and fig. S15B (NbP/Nb) show with the same sign of slope. One of the two carrier-type labels is wrong.
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.17337v4· Supplementary Text Section II; fig. S15A, S15B; main text, Carrier density estimates
- referencescitation check: upheld
Ref. 32, the epitaxial NbP film comparison for resistivity and carrier density, exists as cited.
Evidence · citation_lookup/2.0.0
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The two-channel fit with a thickness-independent surface term gives mS at 300 K (Fig. 3F), but the 1.5 nm NbP layer at 34 cm has a total sheet conductance of about 4.4 mS and the 2.3 to 2.6 nm films about 5 to 6 mS (Fig. 1E). Since a constant surface channel requires , the model does not describe the films below about 4 nm, including the one behind the headline value; the paper does not address this.
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.17337v4· Fig. 1E, Fig. 3F, fig. S13A; Supplementary Text Section I
- referencescitation check: upheld
Ref. 29, the thickness-independent channel analysis the two-channel model follows, exists as cited.
Evidence · citation_lookup/2.0.0
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The EDS line scan of the 18 nm film described as an atomic ratio "close to 1" reads about 1.3 Nb per P on its plateau (about 38 % Nb and 30 % P in fig. S5A).
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.17337v4· fig. S5A, S5B
- referencescitation check: upheld
Ref. 14, the source of the crystalline NbP resistivity and mobility the paper compares with, exists as cited.
Evidence · citation_lookup/2.0.0
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The Nb seed Hall contribution is removed by subtracting reciprocal Hall resistances (, ) instead of sheet Hall conductivities ( at low field). Figure readings reproduce Fig. 4A with the reciprocal rule (4.3 nm: 0.32 vs 0.30 at 9 T) and not with the additive rule (0.082 ). With the additive rule the 4.3 nm sheet density is about cm and the mobility about 2.3 cm/(V s), so cm and cm/(V s) are not supported as stated.
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.17337v4· Supplementary Text, Section II; figs. S15, S17; Fig. 4A, 4C, 4D; Fig. 3C, 3D; fig. S6C— Reproduction script: hall_subtraction_check.py in the verifier's workspace
- evidenceminor
The single-band Hall density of the 80 nm film, about cm (fig. S16), is roughly three carriers per atom of NbP (tetragonal cell Å, Å, four formula units, about atoms cm), so is not a carrier density in these films; the surface density extrapolated from the same analysis inherits this.
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.17337v4· fig. S16; main text, Carrier density estimates
- referencescitation check: upheld
Ref. 23, the NbAs nanobelt result the surface-density comparison relies on, exists as cited.
Evidence · citation_lookup/2.0.0
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Ref. 25, the amorphous BiSe surface-state result the paper uses for disorder-tolerant surface conduction, exists as cited.
Evidence · citation_lookup/2.0.0
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Three figure cross-references are wrong: the Fig. 3 caption cites fig. S4A for the Nb seed conductance (it is fig. S6C), the fig. S11 caption cites a fig. S8D that does not exist, and the fig. S18 caption cites fig. S17A,B, which has no panels.
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.17337v4· captions of Fig. 3, fig. S11, fig. S18
- claimsminor
The abstract's "up to six times lower than the bulk NbP resistivity" compares the 1.5 nm value with the 80 nm film of this work; against the crystalline bulk value given in the text (60 to 70 cm) the factor is about two.
- https://arxiv.org/abs/2409.17337v4· Abstract; main text p. 3 (crystalline bulk 60 to 70 $\mu\Omega$ cm); Fig. 1E
Impact prediction: top 4% of 2,376 Physics, Materials Science papers, 2024-03-01 to 2024-08-31
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What to do next
Next step on this line
Redo the Hall analysis with additive sheet conductivities and extend the Hall-bar series to the thinnest films
- Ground
- Fig. 4A matches the reciprocal-resistance subtraction, not the additive rule for parallel sheets, and the thickness-independent surface term of Fig. 3F exceeds the total conductance of the 1.5 and 2.6 nm films.
- Action
- Subtract the seed as (or the full tensor at 9 T), fit and the magnetoresistance with a two-carrier model, and measure 1.5 and 2.6 nm films in the same Hall-bar geometry from 5 to 300 K.
- Expected outcome
- Revised surface density and mobility with stated compensation, and a boundary conductance that shows where the constant-channel picture stops holding.
A different direction
Separate the NbP boundary from the Nb/NbP interface
- Ground
- At 1.5 nm the seed carries about 65 % of the stack conductance, and the interface-gas explanation named by the authors cannot be excluded with one seed thickness.
- Action
- Measure a series at fixed NbP thickness with seed thicknesses from 0 (seed-free on an amorphous substrate) to 4 nm, and NbP/SiN multilayers with a fixed total thickness.
- Expected outcome
- If the excess conductance tracks the number of NbP/SiN boundaries and not the seed, the boundary channel belongs to NbP; if it tracks the seed, the interface explanation gains support.
Would change this verdict: A seed-thickness or seed-free series at fixed NbP thickness showing that the excess conductance scales with the Nb seed or the NbP/Nb interface rather than with the NbP film, or Hall-bar data at 1.5 and 2.6 nm inconsistent with the room-temperature series beyond the roughly 20 % spread seen between Fig. 1E and Fig. 3 at 4.3 nm, would move me to not sound on the central claim. A corrected Hall analysis would not change the stance, only the carrier numbers.